: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:09 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

Noble has to get the best out of our players, as they are capable of so much more.

He's only able to do it in the Playoffs (and even then I'd be happy to bet a lot of that's self-motivation on the players' part).

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:16 pm  

WigansForeignLegion wrote:

You say that like our squad is $hite; on paper it's top 4, easily. We just need some effective coaching for the current crop we have.

a good portion of our squad is poop!

coley - transfer list, on a free if need be.
mathers - as above.
goulding - transfer list, never be good enough for wigan.
pryce - too much time will be spent waiting for him to one day come good.
mcilorum - in front of the disciplinary panel again, needs to knuckle down bigtime to warrant another deal.
bailey - average at best.
o'carroll - not good enough when you look at saints, leeds and bradfords pack.
prescott - if he was gonna break any potts, he'd have done it by now.

this is based on watching wigan week in week out. theres 8 of our current squad that first spring to mind. some may say out tim smith on there also, i happen to think that tim smith is of the same mould as barrett, has the skill and the vision but lacks the runners to ever really trouble teams.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:21 pm  

W18ANR wrote:

a good portion of our squad is poop!

coley - transfer list, on a free if need be.
mathers - as above.
goulding - transfer list, never be good enough for wigan Still young, needs 1 more season
pryce - too much time will be spent waiting for him to one day come good. We've come this far, 6 months won't kill. He can get fitter in the reserves while Ainscough has a run
mcilorum - in front of the disciplinary panel again, needs to knuckle down bigtime to warrant another deal. still needs another year to mature
bailey - average yet hard working who brings good experience to a young squad.
o'carroll - not good enough when you look at saints, leeds and bradfords pack. Wrong, he's a good 4th prop
prescott - if he was gonna break any potts, he'd have done it by now. Wrong, if he gets his form of early 08 he'll be flying again

this is based on watching wigan week in week out. theres 8 of our current squad that first spring to mind. some may say out tim smith on there also, i happen to think that tim smith is of the same mould as barrett, has the skill and the vision but lacks the runners to ever really trouble teams.

thoughts in bold.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:25 pm  

WigansForeignLegion wrote:

thoughts in bold.

your more than entitled to your opinion bud ... but as i said in a previous post the fans arnt willing to give anymore time on our club...they want glory...

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:27 pm  

WigansForeignLegion wrote:

thoughts in bold.

there are also alot of if's and time in your points in bold, alot of uncertainty???

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:32 pm  

W18ANR wrote:

your more than entitled to your opinion bud ... but as i said in a previous post the fans arnt willing to give anymore time on our club...they want glory...

Think you'll find many fans would be happy with entertaining rugby for a start.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:33 pm  

W18ANR wrote:

there are also alot of if's and time in your points in bold, alot of uncertainty???

And you'll need to replace these players you've flagged with....... more players (who'll need time to settle and, even then, aren't guaranteed to settle so could therefore turn into the likes of those you've flagged).

I can't help but think you're shooting from the hip with this.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:35 pm  

WigansForeignLegion wrote:

Think you'll find many fans would be happy with entertaining rugby for a start.

and i would be 1 of those!!!...i dont mind getting beat as long as we try...and over the first three games there has been zero effort.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:42 pm  

W18ANR wrote:

and i would be 1 of those!!!...i dont mind getting beat as long as we try...and over the first three games there has been zero effort.

I believe the effort is there but sadly we are lacking in application, execution and worryingly ability

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:44 am  

MattyB wrote:

Smells like BS to me that one!!

The cost of Electric, Water & Washing Powder is hell of a lot less than the cost of outsourcing to a dry cleaning agency on a regular basis..........

It Is BS.

The kit man washes their kit, their training gear and cleans their boots - if they want it. Our Kit man is employed full time JUST to do that.