Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:40 pm  

I don't hate Segeyaro. Let's not forget he was a big reason for Leeds staying up and topping the Middle 8s.

While I hoped he would want to stay, I never really believed he would until he signed the new contract with the NRL clause removed.

The events since he has returned to Australia have obviously been disappointing. While it is likely he's genuinely happier in Oz, I suspect his agent has played a huge role in stoking these feelings of homesickness, so both parties can receive more money in the NRL. He's clearly been told to sit tight and say the right things in the media while the inevitability of the situation is dealt with by the respective parties.

I can't comment much on GH's handling of all this without further detail. I hope he was not heavy handed, although it looks like Segeyaro and his agent had drawn a clear line in the sand...

Professional players are surely aware of the implications of signing contracts, especially one in mid-career like Segeyaro. For me this underlines a lack of responsibility and professionalism in the player. While I'm disappointed that GH seems to have removed a back door for him to come back to Leeds, as good as he is, Segeyaro's recent actions suggest he doesn't possess the attitude and leadership qualities Leeds need right now for such a key role model in the team. A not-fully committed Segeyaro could have been quite poisonous to any recovery the team hopes to make in 2017.

Perhaps a solid player can be found to replace him still. Falloon looked decent at times but he also seemed defensively weak on occasion. A solid hooker to be spelled with Burrow coming off the bench could still work out well. I've still a degree of optimism that some regulars will come back into form (e.g. Watkins, Cuthbertson, Moon) and that some of the younger players will take a big step up (e.g Ward, Sutcliffe, Golding, and Lilley). There are never any guarantees in sport! It promises to be an interesting season for Leeds, that's for sure.

Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:28 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

.... A solid hooker to be spelled with Burrow coming off the bench could still work out well. I've still a degree of optimism that some regulars will come back into form (e.g. Watkins, Cuthbertson, Moon) and that some of the younger players will take a big step up (e.g Ward, Sutcliffe, Golding, and Lilley). There are never any guarantees in sport! It promises to be an interesting season for Leeds, that's for sure.

& you were doing so well up to this point.
Stand by for all the criticism & name calling you've now brought down on yourself.
Sheeple anyone?

Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:37 pm  

Absolutely hate on Segeyaro.

He came over here, well paid and played some games.

He said he enjoyed it and that he'd like to stay and signed an extension. His Twitter feed was packed with chilling at coffee shops and with players. When Moon went to the Shadwell dad's night out, Segeyaro went with him, and Galloway.

He did not sit in every night watching telly.

Kids and fans idolised him and bought his shirt.

All of a sudden he goes home and cannot be bothered to see out the contract he signed less than a months ago?

Its appalling behaviour.


There a YouTube video of how he was taken in by a family and made to feel at home when he was younger.

Is that, albeit over 3 months, how we treat him when Penrith ditched him?

Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:05 pm  

just get rid and move on. he's replaceable

Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:29 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I don't hate the guy. I think his behaviour and conduction of the whole situation is very poor (and his agent must take plenty of the blame in this too), and is rather insulting towards the club whether intended or not. it doesn't sit well with me that he believes the club should just say 'oh, ok then you don't fancy it now...all the best James' without consequence.

Pretty much this. His agent has let him down big time IMO. Crazy to sign a 2 year deal, I'm sure if he asked for 1 year only then GH wouldn't turn him down in our circumstances. The threat of not playing for 12 months if Leeds hold his registration is bad, but 2 years out in the wilderness is massive.

Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:07 pm  

I don't hate any sports personalities as I don't and never will know them enough to hate.

So I can say without emotion getting involved that segeyaro (and sandow and hopefully solomona) should be made to sit out the remainder of his contract unpaid and off the wage bill. He should not be forced back to Leeds, he is not a slave after all but he was happy to sign the contract and take the money so now he has renegaded on that there should be some comeuppance.

The reality of course is that won't happen. We will accept a low ball offer and he will be gone.

Dont hate the player hate the game.

Re: James Segeyaro : Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:28 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

just get rid and move on. he's replaceable

Yep.

Re: James Segeyaro : Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:08 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I don't see the issue so much.Yes, the bickering at times tends to go on a little too long with certain posters, and they know who they are. But at least the site is not dead like others (Saints is a ghost town). At the end of the day, we are all here to talk RL and first and foremost Leeds RL.

I would suggest these labelled 'great posters' of years gone by have fallen out of love with the game in general or have better things to do with their time these days and aren't as deep into it as they were to bother as much as they 'can't stand the bickering'.

The bickering was always here anyway. I have only been posting since 2012, but used to be a lurker for a fair few years before that and the moaning, whinging and bickering back then was still prevalent. Not saying some good people hdon't bother anymore, but really it's Just another' ahhh, it was so much better back in the day' attitude if you ask me

It could be much, much more vicious on here but a lot of people were arguing with their mates. The mods had their hands full on many occasions. I've not seen whole threads and actual posters disappear like they did 7/8 years ago. The biggest difference is that we have no "enemies" anymore to distract us. Bradford fans no longer come on here looking for a bit of verbal. We had a running war with Stains fans for years, usually resulting in an October slap down of epic proportions.
But that's gone. Now threads are derailed by people that clearly deeply dislike each other.

Re: James Segeyaro : Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:38 am  

If somebody said to you "come work for me, you will be nearer your friends and family, the weather is better, the job is better and i will pay you 3 times the salary but you cant work your notice period in your current job i need you to start work tomorrow." How many would decline the offer???

This situation with Segeyaro was always going to arise from the moment he was announced a Leeds player last season. He is too good a player to not be wanted by any NRL team in need of a 9.

Im shocked at how poor GH and McD handled the situation as i have previously said. Speaking so publically and with such anger was unneccassary all Leeds had to say was he isnt due back until Jan 3rd. I think they have created a bit of a mess now. If no deal can be done with an NRL team weve made it harder for Segeyaro to return.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: James Segeyaro : Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:17 am  

^ yep