Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:09 pm  

As much as those who like union would like to think so, mine (and others) dislike for the game isn't based in fear, being paranoid or feeling inferior. It's genuinely because I feel it's a poor product, the basic core skills arent of the level of RL and the format of the game, to me, isn't conducive to producing an entertaining game on the whole.

England games are generally full of negative play and a game of rugby where you'd elect to take a penalty goal when you're about 15 points down isn't a great indicator.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:27 pm  

as a qualified RU coach and someone who has seen a few England games....I totally agree with Mugwump.

[Bullseye]

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:22 pm  

Seth wrote:

As much as those who like union would like to think so, mine (and others) dislike for the game isn't based in fear, being paranoid or feeling inferior. It's genuinely because I feel it's a poor product, the basic core skills arent of the level of RL and the format of the game, to me, isn't conducive to producing an entertaining game on the whole.

England games are generally full of negative play and a game of rugby where you'd elect to take a penalty goal when you're about 15 points down isn't a great indicator.

This

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:48 pm  

galliant wrote:

I hope you and Mugwump both carry on enjoying watching 'yawnion' as you have obsessively done for the last 4 decades. I can't imagine you'd both be so stupid as to watch a sport for that long if you despised it

Agreed. I stopped watching it in the '70s because I could not bear watching such crap.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:09 pm  

I agree with Seth who summed up my sentiments on the game pretty well.I will watch little bits of the up coming WC, mainly the semis and final as the southern hemisphere sides can be almost watchable but then That will be my fill of RU until 2019.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:32 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I agree with Seth who summed up my sentiments on the game pretty well.I will watch little bits of the up coming WC, mainly the semis and final as the southern hemisphere sides can be almost watchable but then That will be my fill of RU until 2019.

I watch it sometimes when I'm feeling a bit down, it has me in stitches seeing how rank bad awful they are, it's comedy gold, especially the fat lads wearing the baggy version of the kit to hide their bellies.

Ha Ha

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:16 pm  

Seth wrote:

As much as those who like union would like to think so, mine (and others) dislike for the game isn't based in fear, being paranoid or feeling inferior. It's genuinely because I feel it's a poor product, the basic core skills arent of the level of RL and the format of the game, to me, isn't conducive to producing an entertaining game on the whole.

England games are generally full of negative play and a game of rugby where you'd elect to take a penalty goal when you're about 15 points down isn't a great indicator.

+1

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:23 pm  

Seth wrote:

As much as those who like union would like to think so, mine (and others) dislike for the game isn't based in fear, being paranoid or feeling inferior. It's genuinely because I feel it's a poor product, the basic core skills arent of the level of RL and the format of the game, to me, isn't conducive to producing an entertaining game on the whole.

England games are generally full of negative play and a game of rugby where you'd elect to take a penalty goal when you're about 15 points down isn't a great indicator.

It's such a poor 'product' that it is watched for over 4 decades or coached by people who claim they don't like it. There is now nearly 80 pages of RL fans talking about all-things RU which is far more than any other RL-based topic on VT (which proves RL fans are more obsessed about RU than their own 'product') on a thread started by a RL fan who hated Union so much he paid good money for months to subscribe to BT to watch it.

There could be another 80 pages of obsessive posts about RU (and probably will be by the end of the RWC), no-one outside of RL fans gives a monkeys what you or anyone else thinks or posts about RU as a 'product' (apart from laughing at it as I do) so crack on

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:00 pm  

I was offering a reasoned response to the school of thought that league fans only 'dislike' union for the reasons I stated. You peddle your agenda that it's obsessive all you like but as a sport which crosses over with ours as much as it does its always going to be discussed, and of course the initial thread was started as a discussion about a former league star.

I never said those outside RL care about my opinion as to the merits of the 'product', I'm sure they dont. Keep scoffing at anyone who dare to not enjoy union and backing up your point with 'emojis' i find that always makes your posts sound mature and reasoned.

Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:20 pm  

galliant wrote:

There is now nearly 80 pages of RL fans talking about all-things RU which is far more than any other RL-based topic on VT (which proves RL fans are more obsessed about RU than their own 'product'):

Or it proves this thread is about the WHOLE sport of RU and is covering all aspects of it.

whereas the threads on RL are about a CERTAIN PART of that sport whether it be a certain match, player, use of VR, signings for 2016, kits for next year etc.